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Old September 18th, 2006, 01:51 PM
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HI

First of all, my experiance with catia is 3 semmesters at school (30 or so days) so forgive me if my questions seem simple.

I'm starting a new project in the next couple of days (a print to cad of an WW1 airplane or an local non profit organization) and i had couple of quiestions, one of which is as follows;

-There will be a lot of parts for this project (2 000 or so), so my main concern is the links in the assambly. if at the end i copy the main folder from computer to cd to computer will it break the links?

I'll post an update in the next few days showing my progress....
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Old September 18th, 2006, 04:55 PM
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Sounds like a good project for school, as well as for the local organization.

As long as you use FILE+SAVE MANGEMENT whenever you copy or SAVE AS, then the links should be remain good. If you just copy the folder, the links probably will be broken!

Publishing your parent geometry and only using published geometry to create links will help tremendously if the links do become broken.

If you have 2000 parts, I also suggest organizing the data into several sub-products.
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Old September 18th, 2006, 06:35 PM
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good idea.

I guess the second question would be this;

I got a L/H, part with bunch of solids in it (a longeron, with shims) how do i mirror it into a R/H part. I seem to be having trouble with it because the solids are referenced to each other.

I was planing on mirroring them and saving the file as R/H...

From what i understand i Should be doing one solid per part but these shims don't have part numbers and arn't very important, so i figure i trow it together.
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Old September 19th, 2006, 10:00 AM
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In real life, all the shims are actual parts with partnumbers that should be modeled as separate CATPart files. A sub-assembly should be made of the longeron and all the shims. And the RH version of the sub-assembly can be made my using the Symmetry tool in the Assembly Design workbench (where you would define which parts are actually mirrored, and which parts can be re-instanced by rotating or translating them). This is what real Engineers/Designers do when designing a real airplane with CATIA.

But.... you are a student doing a quick little project just for fun and without having to worry about things like manufacturing and BOMs and revisions, so you can take some shortcuts. Based on your attachment, I would boolean assemble all the shims into the longeron so you endup with a single partbody of the LH assembly. I would publish the partbody, and then copy and paste special with link the partbody into a brand new CATPart, and then apply a symmetry to make a RH assembly. (if you modify the LH assembly, the RH changes also).
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Old September 20th, 2006, 01:42 AM
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spider007

What plane is it? Do you have actual production drawings?Do you need help with the modelling? I would be very glad to help out if you require. Would just love to model an actual plane in Catia...
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Old September 20th, 2006, 06:09 AM
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we have prints that we bought off the internat from a guy that is also into this stuff....he did all required reserch and made condenced set of prints (about 9 pages). The thing is, they want to use cad files to cut the wood stuff on their rouder, waterjet all the brackets (of which there is a lot), and basicly work out all the bugs before they start building it

The plane is SE5a scout, from WW1, seen in this picture below

I'd love to have some help, but this is volonteer work, and on top of that i only have hard copy drawings, which isn't exacly ideal for over internet work.
It isn't as fun as you may think, most of the time is spent trying to read the drawings, just because the guy who drew the set condenced is so much.....it takes a lot of time....time i could be spending drinking beer and chasing women....

If you are still looking for a project like that go on http://www.replicraft.us.fm/pricelist.html and for 120 you could get a set you can do your self. Better yat, find a fun plane with no drawings out there...and do some reserch in the archives, and draw one from original production drawings...

HELP SAVE OUR HISTORY

The collage is donating the machinery time, and computer/sofware time, and the organization is providing the materials, and the skill (or lack of it, in my case) I told them, my time would be better spent running the CNC

i'll keep this forum updated (and maybe another forum) just to get some feed back from experienced people

Mr Catia; I'll do the modeling as "profesional" as i can.....I'd hate to cause a heart attack to the guy that opens this file 10 years from now, when he wants to build one too.
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Old September 20th, 2006, 08:57 AM
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[quote=spider007;1743]

I'd love to have some help, but this is volonteer work, and on top of that i only have hard copy drawings,QUOTE]

I gathered that it might be volunteer work and its a pity that all you have are hard copy drawings as the offer to help still stands.I love anything to do with aviation. and am also learning catia...Cant think of a better way to learn than such a project as you have ....Anyway let us know of your progress often and feel free to shout if you hit a hurdle or 2 along the way...

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Old September 21st, 2006, 09:06 PM
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I have a feeling this will get complicated soon enough.

there are brackets that join all the struts....i haven't done them yat....

i'll work on it a bit more on the weekend
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Old September 22nd, 2006, 08:23 PM
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how do I disabe scroling on my mouse, I keep scroling my tree up and down when my finger slips.
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Old September 25th, 2006, 01:20 PM
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I avoid the problem by using a 3-button mouse that doesn't have a wheel.

You can also avoid the problem with your settings: Tools + Options + General + Display and in the Tree Manipulation tab: turn OFF the ZOOM ON TREE option (Tree zoom after clicking on any branch). To zoom the tree after you turned off this setting, select the axis in the lower-right corner to activate the tree, zoom the tree, and select the axis again to de-active the tree.
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